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andy12
Senior Member

USA
423 Posts

Posted - July 12 2006 :  09:54:48  Show Profile
Hi Guys just want let you know as of Sep 01, 2006 CIC introduce a new process for a Federal skill worker. Check this out:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/applications/skilled-simple.html

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Simplified Immigration Application Process - An Introduction
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The Canadian Government is introducing a "Simplified
Application Process" for Federal Economic Classes under
which applicants will provide only fees plus a modified
IMM0008 application at time of initial application, and
will be asked to provide supporting documentation only when
the visa office is ready to assess.

Highlights of this new process are -

1. It applies to Skilled Workers, Investors,
Entrepreneurs and Self-Employed Categories

2. Applicant need not submit supporting documents
with immigration application

3. Supporting documents would be requested 4-5 months
before beginning of final assessment

4. Full processing fee refundable if applicant do not
wish to continue with process before the beginning of
final assessment

5. This process is coming in to force on September 01,
2006

Edited by - Colin on July 12 2006 15:55:26
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funsoca
New Member

27 Posts

Posted - July 12 2006 :  10:00:35  Show Profile
I guess thus will not affect applications already in queue. Do you think this will be an improvement over the current process?
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jeglop
Average Member

USA
198 Posts

Posted - July 12 2006 :  12:32:50  Show Profile
OK, so you submit the fee and the application and while you wait for the CIC to ask you for supporting papers, your PCCs, IELTS, etc. will expire. I don't see any reason why the initial asessment time should become shorter, and they probably won't start IA before the file is compete anyway. Doesn't sound like much of improvement.
Under the old system, at least if your file is not complete they'd send it back and not charge the application fee.
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roozbeh
Advanced Member

Canada
630 Posts

Posted - July 12 2006 :  12:47:03  Show Profile
It sounds like faster process for those of us who are residing in Canada

Edited by - roozbeh on July 12 2006 13:43:24
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jaskier
Average Member

Canada
114 Posts

Posted - July 12 2006 :  13:59:34  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by roozbeh

It sounds like faster process for those of us who are residing in Canada




How? Acc. to the website people in Canada apply using the old way:
Most applicants will qualify for the simplified application process. You must use the simplified application process unless you:

* are a provincial nominee; or
* have been selected by Quebec; or
* are eligible for points for arranged employment (see Factor 5); or
* have a legal temporary resident status in Canada as a worker or a student and are submitting your application at the Canadian visa office in Buffalo; or
* have a legal status in the United States and are submitting your application through the Canadian visa office in Buffalo.
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roozbeh
Advanced Member

Canada
630 Posts

Posted - July 12 2006 :  14:04:33  Show Profile
Based on this new so called “simplified process” you do not submit your documents until CIC asks you to do so, and they based on this information they ask when they start processing a file. So if they ask some applicants to submit their documents in advance doesn't it mean that they need these document from the very first days? In other words doesn't it mean a faster process?

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jojo1497
Top Member

Canada
3649 Posts

Posted - July 12 2006 :  14:16:50  Show Profile
roozbeh,
I guess it says we are not allowed for the faster or simplified process!... and u said it is gonna be faster for those who reside in canada... please clarify..
Thanks man
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roozbeh
Advanced Member

Canada
630 Posts

Posted - July 12 2006 :  14:23:23  Show Profile
I think you're missing the point:
Nowhere is indicated “faster process”, instead it's all “simplified process”. It's simplified for whom? Applicants? Noway! It's simplified for CIC, by not keeping all these papers while their not required. They ask applicants to submit the supporting documents as soon as they start processing the file and those who are identified as non-eligibles for simplified process are actually those whose supporting documents are required in advance.
Anyways it is my assumption of what I read on their web site.
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Chilifan
Average Member

Canada
204 Posts

Posted - July 12 2006 :  15:36:26  Show Profile
Well the simplified process doesn't help me any since Buffalo people don't qualify. I don't know why we get something special and more lengthy. It's like CIC wants to make things easier but Buffalo won't let it happen. Plus I've emailed them a couple times, they never answer the question really and seem like jerks.
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roozbeh
Advanced Member

Canada
630 Posts

Posted - July 12 2006 :  15:40:21  Show Profile
I guess it's a misunderstanding?
Simplified Process doesn't make it any shorter, All it does is let people get their file number faster and take their time to gather the documents. That's all.
Don't you think that they ask Buffalo applicants to submit the documents in advance is kind of full part of the glass?

Edited by - roozbeh on July 12 2006 15:41:59
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Colin
Administrator

Canada
190 Posts

Posted - July 12 2006 :  15:43:28  Show Profile
From my understanding, the process is simplified in that instead of submitting all your forms immediately, and then having to spend the time to update your information when CIC gets around to processing your file; you submit only a basic form at first and then you submit your supporting forms and documents only when CIC reaches your file in the cue. As such, while this may not significantly reduce processing times, it eliminates any need to re-submit documentation after a lengthy wait.

I've stickied the topic as it is an important change to immigration procedures, please keep all conversation on the subject in this thread so as to not clutter the forum.

Colin


Edited by - Colin on July 12 2006 15:56:20
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Deepika
Senior Member

Canada
326 Posts

Posted - July 12 2006 :  16:12:36  Show Profile
As suggested by people this new change will make the application process just easier. but according to me if you have a complicated case for example my case trying to prove 1 year work experience by part time work + full time ,it's always a good idea to supply additional documentation. If you case is straight forward then it's good to use this easier method

Another thing I want to mention to people in this forum,I have read a lot of posts in this forum where people have suggested to do police clearance and IELTS before applying to fasten processing. Read the following update with the simplified processing:

Important: Do not submit any police certificate, proof of medical exam, proof of language test results or any other document before the visa office asks you to do so.

So CIC doesn't want us to send these documents as some of them expire by the time they get to processing the case.
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Chilifan
Average Member

Canada
204 Posts

Posted - July 12 2006 :  16:22:07  Show Profile
It might be helpful if you get your AOR faster, it might not. If it's true they're increasing the overall immigration and trying to make the processing times faster hopefully we'll see the results soon.
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lovergirl
Advanced Member

911 Posts

Posted - July 12 2006 :  18:31:29  Show Profile
what they are trying to stop is the collection of paperwork that is expired by the time they get to the AI. Then it means stopping everything, asking you to redo things and sending it all back. Figure how much space it takes to store 500,000 applications. Now, they will ask for your supporting documents when they are read to look at them. your family information will be current, your employment, police clearances, language tests will all be current. They will look at the file once and decide yes or no or this one needs an interview.

it will not mean you get your PR any sooner. It just means there will not be a lot time wasted resubmitting documents (which we should all be very happy about)
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sarin_j
Top Member

Canada
1399 Posts

Posted - July 12 2006 :  20:27:02  Show Profile
this seems like a good approach. no more worries about doing the same thing twice. you need to give the documents only when asked for. They need to look at only those documents which have any impact the application they are assessing. this is much less complicated and would make it easy for people who are planning to apply for the PR.
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francism501
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Armenia
172 Posts

Posted - July 13 2006 :  05:34:18  Show Profile
Is there any changes in the dependents form in SIAP.
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