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Serendib
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Posted - April 26 2008 :  22:34:21  Show Profile
APPLICATION FOR PERMANENT RESIDENCE FROM OUTSIDE CANADA
Immigration and refugee applications for permanent residence that originate outside Canada or the United States are managed by the Overseas Immigrant Screening Program under which the Service shares responsibility for security screening with CIC officials based abroad. Generally, CSIS only becomes involved in the screening process either upon being requested to do so by the Immigration Program Manager (IPM) or upon receiving adverse information about a case from established sources. This division of labour allows the Service to concentrate on the higher-risk cases.

In 2001–2002, the Service received 28,775 requests to screen refugee and immigration applications initiated outside of Canada. Of these, CSIS reported that 7155 were referred to SLOs for consultation.

NATURE OF CSIS ADVICE TO CIC
Immigration requests for security screening resulted in 415 briefs from CSIS to CIC—282inadmissible briefs and 133 information briefs. Of those requests, the average time required for a "no reportable trace" (NRT) was 55 days, for an information brief 401 days and for an inadmissible brief 498 days. In the latter two categories, the figures represent a significant improvement over the previous year, which were 661 days and 644 days, respectively. For applications under the Refugee Determination Program, information briefs required 355 days on average and inadmissible briefs 433 days.

My question is this...
Are all applicants referred to the CSIS for background checks by CIC?
As I understand from this article, average time for NRT is 55 days if they were referred to the CSIS.
If the CIC did not request an investigation from the CSIS, what will be the duration for background checks??( should be less than 55 days) right?

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dj_klub_1974
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Canada
61 Posts

Posted - April 28 2008 :  01:51:40  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Serendib

APPLICATION FOR PERMANENT RESIDENCE FROM OUTSIDE CANADA
NATURE OF CSIS ADVICE TO CIC
Immigration requests for security screening resulted in 415 briefs from CSIS to CIC—282inadmissible briefs and 133 information briefs. Of those requests, the average time required for a "no reportable trace" (NRT) was 55 days, for an information brief 401 days and for an inadmissible brief 498 days. In the latter two categories, the figures represent a significant improvement over the previous year, which were 661 days and 644 days, respectively. For applications under the Refugee Determination Program, information briefs required 355 days on average and inadmissible briefs 433 days.

My question is this...
Are all applicants referred to the CSIS for background checks by CIC?
As I understand from this article, average time for NRT is 55 days if they were referred to the CSIS.
If the CIC did not request an investigation from the CSIS, what will be the duration for background checks??( should be less than 55 days) right?



Well Serendib, you have to be a little more patient.. By you panicking and posting so many times will not help speed up your process.. You must first understand why the delay .. Your timeline is not that bad considering mine.. I've been waiting for my wife since Mar 2007 ..

If your spouse's background checks are taking long it's proberly because someone has spooked you're spouses papers. Now I cannot confirm this but I've collected a lot of info from people and getting a few ideas of what's going on in the immigration system. You see, if CSIS takes a long period of time to do background checks then it usually means that someone has called in or some info came to CIC that your spouse could be a criminal even though that is not true and your spouse has a clean record. But CIC takes all info received very seriously even if someone tried to do a mischief to delay someone's papers. And beleive me people are doing just that because of jealously.
The reasons why CSIS take more time to investigate is when words like terrorist, fraud, murder, working for spy agency, etc come to them. And another thing about CSIS when their investigation is done they sit on that paper for a long time like a month or 2 month extra before they send it down to the visa processing office.
that's why its a good practise every month to send your visa processing officer an email to remind them to send a note to ottawa for an update on your spouse's background checks.
Usually CSIS finishes these checks if the applicant truly has a clean record within 3 to 6 months but if they do find something even small,then the checks could go on for over a year.
The bottom line is keep sending your visa processing office a reminder about the update on your spouse's background checks and keep telling them to send a reminder to Ottawa for an update. Now this should only be done once a month and not like ever week or else they won't like it.
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Serendib
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Posted - April 28 2008 :  07:50:28  Show Profile
Thnx DJ for your reply. I far as I know every PR applicant has to go through background checks. But whether it should be referred to CSIS is decided by the local CHC. Do you know at what stage they start doing these background checks. Is it after they received medical reports? or doing it concurrently with medicals.?
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dj_klub_1974
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Canada
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Posted - April 28 2008 :  12:15:10  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Serendib

Thnx DJ for your reply. I far as I know every PR applicant has to go through background checks. But whether it should be referred to CSIS is decided by the local CHC. Do you know at what stage they start doing these background checks. Is it after they received medical reports? or doing it concurrently with medicals.?



yes your right.. it is decided by the local CHC and that's when they receive information by someone they wanted to make sure the applicant was not involved in something that they might have missed out. Usually it's the family people that could call in and try to steer trouble cause they get jealous that their son/daughter could tie the knot with someone from Canada. Since all of us have big families it's hard to trace out who's who. It could be someone from Canada or back home.
And I was just reading a few posts earlier where someone posted that their spouse's delay was because some sister-in-law or brother-in-law created the problem and called in to report some false info to delay his/her papers.

Usually they do background checks after medicals are received and are ok cause they don't want to do background checks when an applicant has a medical problem and is going to be refused.

now I see that from a couple of post earlier from you that Colombo started processing you're wife's papers in Oct 2007 and you wife had to re-do medicals in Feb 2008. Medicals are usually valid for 1 year. Why did you wife had to re-do medicals ?
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Serendib
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Posted - April 28 2008 :  18:55:43  Show Profile
She went for her medical in Oct 2006. We submitted our app in July 2007. The delay was due to her pregnancy.
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dj_klub_1974
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Canada
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Posted - April 29 2008 :  00:58:50  Show Profile
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Originally posted by Serendib

She went for her medical in Oct 2006. We submitted our app in July 2007. The delay was due to her pregnancy.



geezzz... double expense for you ... Those medicals are not cheap ..

If I were you, I wouldn't have sent in my 2006 medicals cause within 3 months they were going to expire and getting a visa within 3 month usually is very hard. I would have gone and done a new medical and sent it in when you sent your papers in July 2007.

but in any case some of us are experiencing delays for nothing there's nothing we can do .. So hopefully all this will be resolved soon as I have been waiting since Mar 2007 ..
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Serendib
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Posted - April 29 2008 :  08:09:44  Show Profile
Hi Dj, where is your CHC located? please post your time line.
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dj_klub_1974
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Canada
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Posted - April 30 2008 :  02:00:49  Show Profile
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Originally posted by Serendib

Hi Dj, where is your CHC located? please post your time line.




you mean my wife's .. as she is the applicant and I'm the sponsor. her CHC is in Bangladesh but Bangladesh doesn't do PR visa's .. They currently only do student, visitors or business .. PR's are done in Singapore. but as of Jan 2009 it's going to be done all in Bangladesh as Singapore is getting a little backed up..

As for timeline.. I'll try ..
Send in my wife's papers Jan 29 2008
MCPC approved Feb 18 2007
Singapore started processing Mar 09 2007
Apr 24 2007 my wife received a letter in Bangladesh that court marriage certificate is not registered.
I flew down on May 03 2007 and got Married in the church on May 04 2007 and also got another Supreme Court registered marriage certificate and sent in both May 07 2007
Singapore receives the certificates May 12 2007
Wife receives a letter from Singapore May 21 2007 that she is on the interview list .
No more updates anymore...
Ordered CAIPS notes on Aug 30th (I think) and got it in Oct 29 2007
Wife received a letter Oct 24 2007 that an interview is scheduled for Nov 27 2007.
Nov 27 2007 was the interview for 20 min and everything went very well. The I/O asked my wife to re-do medicals and she will send her the form when she travels back to SIngapore.
Dec 16 2007 I flew down to Bangladesh to visit my wife cause it's out wedding anniversary on Dec 20 2007 and then Christmas and New year and I returned to Canada Jan 18 2008.
Sent emails to Singapore on jan 10 2008 about update. respond was the application is in it final stage and it will be done soon.
Soon became a long waiting game. Called MP on Apr 03 2008 and she said they are doing Background checks as that's only the thing life and it should be done very very soon. Still waiting. NOw another email from Singapore that they have send Nemours reminding to Ottawa Canada for an update on CSIS and no respond from them. and then finally a note on Apr 22 2008 that background checks can take anywhere from 3 to 6 months which I posted in a few messages back ..

so that's what I'm in so far.
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