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Ledoux
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USA
340 Posts

Posted - August 25 2008 :  19:41:07  Show Profile
You are right Abulmiz,like I said above, when I got the CSQ, the medical forms were also included in the package.I came to the forum, posted messages here and there to find out, but apparently that was a new change in the process, & nobody in this forum knew about it.I emailed Buffalo and Montreal to find out, their responses didn't help me either.

So, I went ahead and sent the application, and the medical forms are sitting here.

I've spoken with DMPs around here, and they say they will need to see the form from Buffalo with my file number and photo attached to it.

Well, I wish they'd atleast sent me back my AOR.I may have missed the chance to do the medicals before sending the application, but if I had my AOR now, it'd still be a good timeline for me to have this process wrapped up by December.

We hope to hear from Abulmiz again.Hopefully he'd have something to say regarding CastAway's question above.
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immi2006
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Canada
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Posted - August 25 2008 :  19:45:58  Show Profile
I am not sure if they changed the rule but I doubt it because I would have seen it on MICC website.
Quebec does not issue medical form because the agreement betweent the province and the federal government is "Quebec selects its immigrants and the federal government verify criminal and medical information". If those are good the federal government issue through its embassy whey you submitted your application.
The other thing is Quebec immigration file number is completely different from the file number you obtain when you submit the application for immigrant visa. When you submit the application for visa, it is the visa office that mails you the medical form with your picture attached to the form and stamped.

I don't know how you went through your stuff but I just checked the website again, the guide remains the same. Here is the link.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/guides/E37048.pdf
Check the last page.

quote:
Originally posted by abulmiz

hi..
regarding the medicals.. when i got the CSQ, i got also the medical forms.. you know that section A in the medical form contains a client ID number (no need to file number.. client ID can also work).. so my physician filled all the information...
and also I got a paper with the CSQ which you fill and send with your application.. In this paper you only indicate the physician name and the date you did the medicals with your client ID, so you send it with the application.
hope I answered ur question..
tc


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immi2006
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Canada
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Posted - August 25 2008 :  19:49:39  Show Profile
The main requirement is knowledge of french. If you know french and english it is a plus. But no french at all you can not make it unless you try to learn french within a year and submit a test result to prove you have some knowledge.

quote:
Originally posted by mike0530

Guys,

Can anybdy just tell me if french is requirement for Quebec immigration. Live in USA, 2 yrs of Exp, MS degree; same with my wife(1 yr exp, MS degree)and whenever I try the points on Quebecs website, I never qualify. I have full points in English but 0 in French. Can somebdy plz advise how to increase points.

I have 72 points for Federal Immigration but now, under the new law, the minister just wants high demand occupations to be considered and my occupation is not in high demand. I wish to try Quebec but not able to get enough points.

Plz advice.

Thanks in advance

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immi2006
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Canada
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Posted - August 25 2008 :  19:53:48  Show Profile
Perhaps they changed the rule but I still doubt it.
Give me the name of the form and I can confirm it if it is the medical form.
I still have scanned copies the ones Buffalo sent me.


quote:
Originally posted by Ledoux

You are right Abulmiz,like I said above, when I got the CSQ, the medical forms were also included in the package.I came to the forum, posted messages here and there to find out, but apparently that was a new change in the process, & nobody in this forum knew about it.I emailed Buffalo and Montreal to find out, their responses didn't help me either.

So, I went ahead and sent the application, and the medical forms are sitting here.

I've spoken with DMPs around here, and they say they will need to see the form from Buffalo with my file number and photo attached to it.

Well, I wish they'd atleast sent me back my AOR.I may have missed the chance to do the medicals before sending the application, but if I had my AOR now, it'd still be a good timeline for me to have this process wrapped up by December.

We hope to hear from Abulmiz again.Hopefully he'd have something to say regarding CastAway's question above.

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Ledoux
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USA
340 Posts

Posted - August 25 2008 :  20:43:47  Show Profile
Immi2006, thanks for the firefighter immediacy with which you are trying to help us here.

I tried typing some parts of the form to paste here, but I accidentally hit a button, & got it deleted.Oops!

Well, it's rather sad that the guys make changes( if at all that is a change), and never paste it on their website.I remember mailing my application without a proof of funds, because I had a checklist for Quebec that was 2 months old, & doesn't have that stipulation.I didn't know they'd updated the junk. Anyway, since I haven't heard from them, it means they didn't reject my application because of that.

Again, I appreciate your hanging around here to help us out immi2006.
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freeman25
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Posted - August 25 2008 :  21:24:42  Show Profile
Ledoux, I think you should have asked the immigration officer about the medicals.
When I got my CSQ, it came with the letter you are talking about. And the immigration officer clearly told me to do my medical examination by following the instructions in the letter. The letter itself is nothing special. So I first got my police report and did my medical after. I actually sent my file once I've done my medical exam and receive the police report from the FBI (I am living in US)I sent my file 6weeks after receiving the CSQ.
I Have been following this forum for quite a time. I never wanted to respond but I just couldn't keep quite for your case because I think you are making thing slow by yourself. They are probably still waiting for your medicals. Well I guess they will finally send you a medical request but you would have waisted some precious time.
As Abdul said it so well, the package you received with the CSQ contains a form that you must fill with the informations on your medical exam(date, address and name of physician) knowing that the results themseleves are sent by the physician.
I am 100% sure that you can do your medical because the request came with the CSQ. You don't have to wait for anything else.
I don't know what you should do now because the immigration officer told me not to wait too long for sending my file with the medical done. Because for us quebec applicant the process is fast. They gave us usually 2 months to heare from us from the time we get our CSQ. After that they remove the priority from your case.
I still think you can do your medical. However you should send a letter explaining your case and if by then you done the medical, give all the information reguarding that.
Anyway, you will hear from them. They will surely send you another request. 100% sure.

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immi2006
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Canada
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Posted - August 25 2008 :  21:47:29  Show Profile
I think this whole is a crap unless someone prove me wrong and I will aknowledge it.
Let's use a bit of logic here. The Quebec immigration system is bit different from the Federal. Assuming that you obtain your csq + medical form and you went to do medical before you submit your application for visa. Then the DMP sent your result to Ottawa. I need someone to tell me how they are going to track your medical result since Buffalo did not assign a file number yet.
Anyway this remains to be sorted out. The form that I was referring to is called IMM1017E. If this is what Quebec gave you perhaps they changed the rule and I am not aware of that.
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Ledoux
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USA
340 Posts

Posted - August 25 2008 :  22:07:56  Show Profile
well, the confusion begins now for me.I didn't know!

I contacted them before sending my application, but they replied vaguely.I didn't understand what they were saying.

They even rejected my file, when I first applied, for a line that I didn't fill out, but said nothing about the medicals.I truly don't know what to do now.

Your question makes sense to me, immi2006.I mean, when Ottawa is ready to send the results to Buffalo, how would they send the stuff.My DMP here is asking for forms with number and photo from Buffalo.

How could these guys make these changes and not inform even the DMPS????
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Ledoux
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USA
340 Posts

Posted - August 25 2008 :  22:26:38  Show Profile
Dear Freeman, could you post yout timeline here.Just indicate when you mailed your application, and if at all you've received an AOR.Let us know how long it took for you to get the AOR.

Does anyone know whether the Buffalo people take phone calls? I'd start panicking again.I wish they would just send me the forms to do the medicals. Mon Dieu!
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immi2006
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Canada
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Posted - August 25 2008 :  22:47:04  Show Profile
Ledoux!
I am convinced that you will get your AOR along with the medical forms. Since I left I have heard that Quebec-immigrants are getting their AOR together with the medical forms. I am pretty you will get it soon.

The other question I have for you, is that the medical form they gave you when you received the csq. I mean the form (IMM 1017E) or (IMM 1017 F). You will see the name at the bottom left of the form.

Edited by - immi2006 on August 25 2008 22:49:26
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abulmiz
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Posted - August 26 2008 :  00:06:04  Show Profile
Hi guys ,
for the medicals.. i think they changed it because even when i went to the physician to do the medical exams in montreal..
the clinic did not ask me to bring them a form.. on the other hand they took two photos from me and they had the ( section A there..) and she attached the photo to the form.. so i was pretty sure it changed.. also on the paper i got with csq.. it says that i can do the medical exams and i should send them a paper indicating the physician name with the csq reference number and send it with the application to buffalo... but in any ways guys.. do not worry.. if you do not do medical exams and send that paper with the application, they will send you the medical forms with the AOR..so no problem :)
but no one still answered my question.. when I get the IA.. does it mean that they received the medical exams or not... if not how can I ask them to know if they did receive or not..
thx
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Ledoux
Senior Member

USA
340 Posts

Posted - August 26 2008 :  02:17:41  Show Profile
Yes immi2006.The form I have here, which came with the CSQ, though without any stamp on it, looking to me like a sample, is actually the IMM1017F.

Pourquoi n'ai-je pas vu/compris cette histoire?
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freeman25
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Posted - August 26 2008 :  10:47:48  Show Profile
Abulmiz I don't think the AOR also means that they've received your medical. Ottawa has to first check your medical, after what they send the results to Buffalo. Once Buffalo gets the results, it is most probably the request for passport that follow.
To check whether your medical has been receivec by Ottawa, you have to get the tracking number from your physician. Call your physician and he will give it to you. So basically you have to check if the mail sent was actually received in Ottawa. That's what I know.

To Ledoux, I can say that I sent my file after medical done and this 6 weeks after the CSQ. The AOR with file number came 3 weeks after. Yesterday I got a mail from buffalo telling me that my file has been transfered to Detroit. So I've been waiting for almost a three months. And I believe by now Ottawa would have finished with my medicals. So I am expecting PPR by next month.

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Ledoux
Senior Member

USA
340 Posts

Posted - August 26 2008 :  10:58:25  Show Profile
Here's what I got from Buffalo today

First, my querry:



Dear CIC Buffalo, I am a Quebec-selected applicant.I sent my application to your office on July 22, 2008 I've come to notice that I had to do my medicals before submitting my file to your office.I didn't know, because on your website, it says we have to wait for your office to request for the medicals. I have medical request forms here that MICC sent along with my CSQ. Do I have to do my medicals now, without hearing from Buffalo, without an AOR from Buffalo? Please help me. Respectfully,

And this is what I got from Buffalo:


Please do not complete medicals until you have received the instructions to do so.


Completing medicals prior to instruction may result in the need to complete them more than once since results have a limited validity.


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abulmiz
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Posted - August 26 2008 :  11:35:55  Show Profile
thx freeman,.. but I wanted to know if IA (initial assessment letter and not AOR) means that they received my medicals..
Ledoux,
most of the time, they do not know what they are saying.. Moreover, you received the medical forms with CSQ, so basically they did ask you to send them the medicals.. but for you i guess you will be getting ur AOR soon, so just wait for it and it should contain the medical forms to be filled.. that would be more safe..
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