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rim07
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9 Posts

Posted - February 21 2009 :  18:49:13  Show Profile
Hi,
I have In-Canada sponsorship application being processed at a local office and they requested additional informations to prove if relationship is genuine.
Pior to this i had filed for refugee status and my application was in last step i.e PRAA.
Last week i got a letter from CBSA to appear at their office with all the ids and passport.Could anyone here tell me why did they send
this letter eventhough i have application in process?. Also,If I go there would they deport me?. Any feedbacks are appreciated.
Thanks.
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feb7
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Canada
2105 Posts

Posted - February 21 2009 :  20:16:34  Show Profile
It's a new thing they've been doing w/failed refugee claimants it seems
There was someone else who had to do it - basically you report to them monthly for like a quick 10 min interview
I'll see if I can find the thread this was discussed in

Found it - look here
http://www.immigration.ca/discussion2/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=44499

Edited by - feb7 on February 21 2009 20:18:06
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rim07
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Posted - February 21 2009 :  20:25:48  Show Profile
Thanks for your prompt answer and help feb7.
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EveS
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375 Posts

Posted - February 22 2009 :  12:09:26  Show Profile
rim07: Went through the same thing last week. If your sponsorship was not submitted prior to you submitting the sponsorship application, you may be in the same boat as us.


This sounds like the letter we got, which is to inform you of the decision on your PRRA. If you didn't submite the application for sponsorship prior to receiving the paperwork to submit the PRRA, then they have the ability to remove you from the country. If you did submit the sponsorship prior to the PRRA paperwork, then make sure you take something that shows, that they received it proir to recieving the PRRA, and they will be obligated to hold off on removal if the PRRA decision is negative until a decision has been reached on your sponsorship application.
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rim07
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Posted - February 22 2009 :  16:12:43  Show Profile
Hi EveS,

I have submitted my paperwork for PRRA in 2002( It used to call PRDCC those days)and we sent sponsorship application in 2006.

So,Is this means they can or will deport me?. Is there anyways i can
put an hold on this?.

Isn`t its like if you send your spousal application before PRRAA decision than they can`t deport you?. I am more nervous now...Could anyother senior member can shed a light on this?.
Thanks.

Edited by - rim07 on February 22 2009 16:18:00
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EveS
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Posted - February 23 2009 :  00:04:09  Show Profile
If they made a negative decision on your PRRA, then unless they fell like being genorous they dont' have to allow you to stay until a decision is made. We are on the same boat, and we are trying to ask them to use their better judgement but I don't know that they will.

The only way the Spousal Application can stay a removal order from PRRA, is if the Spousal Appication is submitted prior to you receiving notice of application for PRRA. Since your PRRA started in 2002, and your application for sponsorship in 2006, it would appear to me, if I haven't missed anything, that if the decision is negative they will ask you to leave, and if you don't they will deport you. If that is the case, leave on your own will or an outside sponsorship will become an incredibly difficult.

If your letter something along the lines of, we've made a decision on the PRRA and would like you to attend at some place at a designated time to inform you of our decision. And then lists a bunch of things to bring? If that is what it is, it's the same thing we had last week.

When is your meeting date?
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neededhelp35
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Poland
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Posted - February 23 2009 :  14:43:53  Show Profile
rim07,

there's nothing to worry about!! i've done the same thing with CBSA. Basically they're just gonna record your voice and u have to report to them every month. U report to them either by phone or by person. They will deport you if the sponsorship gets rejected. Other than that while there's no decision yet for your file they wont deport you.
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EveS
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375 Posts

Posted - February 23 2009 :  20:20:13  Show Profile
neededhelp35, your situation is not the same as rim07. I believe once he/she goes for the meeting he is going to find out that it is what I am talking about. You were never in the PRRA stage of your application, from what you've posted prior, and your sponsorship application was submitted prior to you dismissing your refugee claim.


I would not say there is anything to worry about. If you both have your letters, post exactly what the letters say, I bet they are different and that rim07's letter is exactly the same letter that I got.
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rim07
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Posted - February 24 2009 :  00:54:53  Show Profile
Hi, Here is how my letter reads like:

(Pge 1 )' Our records indicates that you are the subject of a removal order.You are required to present yourself at this office
for an interview as indicated below in order to update your immigration file:

Date:
Time:
Location: 6900 Airport Road, Entrance 2B.

You must bring this letter and following items to the interview:
(1) Home/land line telephone bill which has your address.
(2) A valid or expired passport.
(3) Birth certificate or ID card of your original country.
(4) All documents issued to you by the Governemt of Canada.

Please note your addendance is mandatory.Failure to report may result in Canada wide warrant of arrest.

(Page 2) ''

DIRECTION TO REPORT

Attached is your direction to report to GTEC on specified date and time.As you are under removal order,CBSA will track your progress through immigration process.Therefore,further reporting condition will be established.
At interview,you will be assigned monthly reporting conditions in person or by telephone.''
After this there are around 5 more lines explaining about reporting system,interpreter and one more intimidation about arrest.

So, what you think EVE and NEEDHELP35?. Did your letter look like this....Eve you are saying about deportation and my wifes is expecting and due date is in April.To be honest,I am very stressed and devastated at this time.
Do you guys think its a deportation letter and i should panic and involve media or MP.I don`t even have a lawyer for my spousal file. Please help guys. Thanks.

Edited by - rim07 on February 24 2009 00:58:48
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EveS
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Posted - February 24 2009 :  13:26:07  Show Profile
The first part is alot like mine except I don't think it said he was the subject of a removal order, because it was to notify us that his PRRA had been decided on. Have they ever told you about the decision on the PRRA?

We also didn't have the second part because he already reports, being that he is a refugee claimaint. Needhelp35 may be right though, this may be similar to theirs, but if that is the case, I now have an argument to make with CBSA because it would appear that your situation and mine are very similar and they won't wait on the outcome of ours even though we both submitted sponsorships after the PRRA was originally asked for, but they will wait for yours.....Please keep me informed on what happens


Rim07, have you receieved first stage approval on your sponsorship? I never thought to ask that before.


Edited by - EveS on February 24 2009 13:28:41
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rim07
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Posted - February 24 2009 :  23:51:21  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by EveS

The first part is alot like mine except I don't think it said he was the subject of a removal order, because it was to notify us that his PRRA had been decided on. Have they ever told you about the decision on the PRRA?

We also didn't have the second part because he already reports, being that he is a refugee claimaint. Needhelp35 may be right though, this may be similar to theirs, but if that is the case, I now have an argument to make with CBSA because it would appear that your situation and mine are very similar and they won't wait on the outcome of ours even though we both submitted sponsorships after the PRRA was originally asked for, but they will wait for yours.....Please keep me informed on what happens


Rim07, have you receieved first stage approval on your sponsorship? I never thought to ask that before.





Hi,

They never called me to inform about the decision on my PRRA. I don`t know whats going on with CBSA?. I was never informed about the decision but they are saying that im subject to the removal orders.

Since they asked me to bring all ids issued by Canada..I and my friends think that they could deport.Anyhow, Yes I did get the first stage approval and CIC is waiting for background checks.

Edited by - rim07 on February 24 2009 23:53:20
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Dawzz
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Posted - February 25 2009 :  00:00:02  Show Profile
You must bring this letter and following items to the interview:
(1) Home/land line telephone bill which has your address.


usually means they are going to put you the reporting system from what I gather over at another forum with a guy who deals with that all the time
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rim07
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Posted - February 25 2009 :  00:26:45  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Dawzz

You must bring this letter and following items to the interview:
(1) Home/land line telephone bill which has your address.


usually means they are going to put you the reporting system from what I gather over at another forum with a guy who deals with that all the time




Thanks, trust me I will sleep good tonight.
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EveS
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Posted - February 25 2009 :  13:13:24  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by rim07

quote:
Originally posted by EveS

The first part is alot like mine except I don't think it said he was the subject of a removal order, because it was to notify us that his PRRA had been decided on. Have they ever told you about the decision on the PRRA?

We also didn't have the second part because he already reports, being that he is a refugee claimaint. Needhelp35 may be right though, this may be similar to theirs, but if that is the case, I now have an argument to make with CBSA because it would appear that your situation and mine are very similar and they won't wait on the outcome of ours even though we both submitted sponsorships after the PRRA was originally asked for, but they will wait for yours.....Please keep me informed on what happens


Rim07, have you receieved first stage approval on your sponsorship? I never thought to ask that before.





Hi,

They never called me to inform about the decision on my PRRA. I don`t know whats going on with CBSA?. I was never informed about the decision but they are saying that im subject to the removal orders.

Since they asked me to bring all ids issued by Canada..I and my friends think that they could deport.Anyhow, Yes I did get the first stage approval and CIC is waiting for background checks.



Ok sorry, I should have asked about first stage approval earlier. Chances are they have decided on the PRRA. However, as I mentioned before, the only way to stay the removal order by the sponsorship is if A: If it was submitted first or B: you've reach first stage approval. Since you've got first stage approval they can't remove you, but because they've probably decided on the PRRA by know as someone else said they are putting you on conditions. That way if your Sponsorship doesn't work out, they can go ahead with the removal order.


They may ask you to call in once of twice a month by telephone, or you may have to go in in person. Sometimes they do a short interview, other times it could be you walk in, guy gets you to sign, asks if your address and phone number is the same and then you leave.


Sorry to freak you out!
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neededhelp35
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Poland
12 Posts

Posted - February 26 2009 :  19:51:15  Show Profile
rim07,

OTHER PEOPLE HERE ARE JUST MAKING U STRESSED OUT, THINKING THAT YOU WILL BE DEPORTED.

so listen to me,

We have the same kind of letter. All you have to do there for your interview is that they're gonna take a record of your voice which only takes less than 5 minutes and they'll let you go

and every month you have to report to the CBSA telephone reporting system thru person or by phone.
and you have to do the reporting until you get your PR.

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neededhelp35
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Poland
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Posted - February 26 2009 :  19:53:30  Show Profile
Dawnz is absolutely RIGHT!!!!

don't be stressed out rim07


can other people here in the forum stop ASSUME THINGSs.??!!!

geez!!!!

quote:
Originally posted by Dawzz

You must bring this letter and following items to the interview:
(1) Home/land line telephone bill which has your address.


usually means they are going to put you the reporting system from what I gather over at another forum with a guy who deals with that all the time


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