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cjane
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 Posted - March 12 2009 : 20:55:43
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Hi, sorry if these questions are repeats, I've looked for the info on this site and can't find, so decided to ask.
I live in Canada, will be sponsoring my husband (he is US) after we marry in April and have printed out and begun my stack of paperwork :)
I'm a little confused on when he is supposed to get the medical exam.
One part says he will have to get exam and gives links for finding local doctor and what paperwork/# of photos to take. Somewhere else on website I see that 'you will be told to go get exam after filing application'. So when does he go?
Before we submit or after they tell us?
or get appointment for around the same time as we apply so both arrive at processing centre around the same time?
I don't want to send him too early and have the results expire (although by the looks of processing time - 6-9 months - it won't) but don't want to wait to be told "go get exam" if it can be timed right.
Also, it says to submit recent photos. Can they just be passport photos? |
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PMM
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Canada
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Posted - March 12 2009 : 21:25:54
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Hi
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Originally posted by cjane
Hi, sorry if these questions are repeats, I've looked for the info on this site and can't find, so decided to ask.
I live in Canada, will be sponsoring my husband (he is US) after we marry in April and have printed out and begun my stack of paperwork :)
I'm a little confused on when he is supposed to get the medical exam.
One part says he will have to get exam and gives links for finding local doctor and what paperwork/# of photos to take. Somewhere else on website I see that 'you will be told to go get exam after filing application'. So when does he go?
Before we submit or after they tell us?
or get appointment for around the same time as we apply so both arrive at processing centre around the same time?
I don't want to send him too early and have the results expire (although by the looks of processing time - 6-9 months - it won't) but don't want to wait to be told "go get exam" if it can be timed right.
Also, it says to submit recent photos. Can they just be passport photos?
1. For spousal applications you have the medical first and submit the receipt copy that you receive from the DMP and include it with the application and sponsorship that you submit.
2. Go back read the instructions, the photos are quite specific as to size, they are not pp photo size.
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robbiesluv
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Posted - March 12 2009 : 21:32:51
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Sponsorship aps are a little different from most - the medical examination is to be done before you submit the application, and proof of the exam included with the paperwork. There is a form in the application package that he will take to the DMP who does the exam; other classes of application don't provide that form, those applicants have to wait for CIC to send them the proper paperwork for the exam. The results are valid for a year.
As far as the photos - you will need to submit pictures to support your genuine relationship, but the "immigration photos" that are requested have to meet certain size requirements. There is information on that in the application package also. Sounds like you need to read through the sponsor's and applicant's guides a bit more . . . and you might also look through the information on the US2Canada website - it's written specifically to support US spousal applicants. |
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kalebsmom
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Canada
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Posted - March 12 2009 : 21:37:37
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| I am waiting until the first stage of approval before submitting medical exam. If you plan on sending them now don't be surprised if they expire. This is my second time around so there is some things i have learned. You will get a letter from CIC when you are approved as a sponsor, saying you can have the medicals done if they haven't been done already. Any place like shoppers or wal-mart that does pp photos will have the size chart for immigration photos. |
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PMM
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Posted - March 13 2009 : 00:33:51
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Hi
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Originally posted by kalebsmom
I am waiting until the first stage of approval before submitting medical exam. If you plan on sending them now don't be surprised if they expire. This is my second time around so there is some things i have learned. You will get a letter from CIC when you are approved as a sponsor, saying you can have the medicals done if they haven't been done already. Any place like shoppers or wal-mart that does pp photos will have the size chart for immigration photos.
Not a smart move, just adds a month or two to the processing times.
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footsy
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Canada
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Posted - March 13 2009 : 03:33:58
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| Yes, my wife's daughter isn't coming with her but they sent my sponsorship back saying that if we don't include her daughter's medical, we won't ever be able to sponsor her. |
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kalebsmom
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Canada
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Posted - March 13 2009 : 10:21:33
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| Well this time I'm waiting a bit to have it done because 2 medical records expired by the time the had made a decison on my first application. I did the criminal record only because I was told a RCMP check wouldn't expire for at least 2 years. |
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footsy
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Canada
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Posted - March 14 2009 : 02:57:29
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| You know what your doing. Stepping around one pile of BS into a smaller pile. |
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Yere
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Canada
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Posted - March 14 2009 : 12:53:42
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Kalebsmom-So you were denied and you are re-aplying instead of appealing. I'll be interested to see your outcome as I think I would do the same if denied. If you feel comfortable sharing can you say how you came to that decision and what office you are dealing with. I'd wait on the medicals too. Our 2nd ones (at the cost of $1000.00 each) are expiring in 2 weeks. The thought of spending another $1000 is painful.
Footsy-If your woman's child is young I would strongly recommend including her as a non-acompanying dependent(and having her medical done). You never know what will happen in the future and you are really closing that door forever if she's not on the application. |
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kamalkapoor
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Posted - March 15 2009 : 12:30:52
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hello robbiesluv
it is my pleasure to contact a top member of the forum.
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will you will help me telling what time is taken for visa after the medicals have been done .and i applied from delhi india
meenu kapoor |
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kalebsmom
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Canada
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Posted - March 15 2009 : 15:26:37
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Originally posted by Yere
Kalebsmom-So you were denied and you are re-aplying instead of appealing. I'll be interested to see your outcome as I think I would do the same if denied. If you feel comfortable sharing can you say how you came to that decision and what office you are dealing with. I'd wait on the medicals too. Our 2nd ones (at the cost of $1000.00 each) are expiring in 2 weeks. The thought of spending another $1000 is painful.
Footsy-If your woman's child is young I would strongly recommend including her as a non-acompanying dependent(and having her medical done). You never know what will happen in the future and you are really closing that door forever if she's not on the application.
I am from London, Ontario and going through Vegerville. I am also the wife of the applicant.
Why we were denied?
Oringainly an H&C application submitted April 16 2006. In June 2007 he recieved a letter from CIC informing us him he could switch to a spousal sponsership applicaton. He did not sign it. It was resent in April 2008 and then on advice of our lawyer signed the agreement. Well in June 2008 I recieved my denial letter as a sponsor for my husband. They based their decision on the fact I had been social assistance from Oct 06 to April '07 and our H&C application was being considered a spousal sponsership from the date it was submited in April 2006 and not when the agreement was signed on April 11 2008. WTF!!! A H&C doesn't even need a sponsor. CIC totaly ran a scam on us. Our lawyer sent them a fax with his agruments how this was wrong. 8 months later still no response from CIC and lawyer tells us they were likely not going to change there decision. We were given 2 options; appeal in federal court, a lenghty and costly battle, or submit new application. We chose to submit another application. And untop of this I recieve a letter from CBSA in Feb that he now has a removal order against him. So there is a PRRA in process as well. He has been signing in once a month with CBSA since 3 years ago. I can't not believe this process in so ridiculus. And can't wait for the day I don't have to hear the words "Immigration Canada" again. I have now started a weekly harassment at Vegerville to process my file faster becuase of this BS. (I found the fax number in the paperwork my lawyer gave back to me) as well as e-mailing anyone who will listen. Probably won't work but at least I feel I'm doing something. I can't believe I have to waist a minute more with crap for something that could have been done at least a year ago. There is another post about a class action law-suit against Immigration Canada. I would be down with that! |
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feb7
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Posted - March 15 2009 : 15:43:14
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I'm not sure how you started a spousal application based on H&C - H&C usually comes into effect after a denial
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Originally posted by kalebsmom
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Originally posted by Yere
Kalebsmom-So you were denied and you are re-aplying instead of appealing. I'll be interested to see your outcome as I think I would do the same if denied. If you feel comfortable sharing can you say how you came to that decision and what office you are dealing with. I'd wait on the medicals too. Our 2nd ones (at the cost of $1000.00 each) are expiring in 2 weeks. The thought of spending another $1000 is painful.
Footsy-If your woman's child is young I would strongly recommend including her as a non-acompanying dependent(and having her medical done). You never know what will happen in the future and you are really closing that door forever if she's not on the application.
I am from London, Ontario and going through Vegerville. I am also the wife of the applicant.
Why we were denied?
Oringainly an H&C application submitted April 16 2006. In June 2007 he recieved a letter from CIC informing us him he could switch to a spousal sponsership applicaton. He did not sign it. It was resent in April 2008 and then on advice of our lawyer signed the agreement. Well in June 2008 I recieved my denial letter as a sponsor for my husband. They based their decision on the fact I had been social assistance from Oct 06 to April '07 and our H&C application was being considered a spousal sponsership from the date it was submited in April 2006 and not when the agreement was signed on April 11 2008. WTF!!! A H&C doesn't even need a sponsor. CIC totaly ran a scam on us. Our lawyer sent them a fax with his agruments how this was wrong. 8 months later still no response from CIC and lawyer tells us they were likely not going to change there decision. We were given 2 options; appeal in federal court, a lenghty and costly battle, or submit new application. We chose to submit another application. And untop of this I recieve a letter from CBSA in Feb that he now has a removal order against him. So there is a PRRA in process as well. He has been signing in once a month with CBSA since 3 years ago. I can't not believe this process in so ridiculus. And can't wait for the day I don't have to hear the words "Immigration Canada" again. I have now started a weekly harassment at Vegerville to process my file faster becuase of this BS. (I found the fax number in the paperwork my lawyer gave back to me) as well as e-mailing anyone who will listen. Probably won't work but at least I feel I'm doing something. I can't believe I have to waist a minute more with crap for something that could have been done at least a year ago. There is another post about a class action law-suit against Immigration Canada. I would be down with that!
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kalebsmom
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Posted - March 16 2009 : 10:01:27
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I did an H& C application and then got this letter from CIC twice.
"The Minister of Citizenship and Immigration announced a new public policy for spouses and common-law partners on February 18, 2005. The policy permits all foreign nationals, regardless of immigration status, who have submitted a sponsorship and who are in spousal or common-law relationships with Canadian citizens or permanent residents of Canada, to be assessed under the regulations of the Spouse or common-law partner in Canada class, provided certain conditions are met.
Applicants in the Spouse or common-law partner in Canada class are not required to demonstrate unusual and undeserved hardship, as required in a humanitarian and compassionate application, but must still meet all requirements of the Spouse or common-law partner in Canada class,including sponsorship requirements eligibility and admissibility requirements. Your application may be considered under these provisions if you indicated to Citizenship and Immigration Canada that you wished to be considered under this policy. Should you wish to be considered under this public policy please send the requested agreement.
(attached to this office within 60 days of the date of this letter).
Agreement to Have Humanitarian and Compassionate Application Assed Under the Provisions of the Spouse and Common-law Partner in Canada Class.
I agree to have my application for permanent residence on Humanitarian and compassionate grounds considered under the provisions of the Spouse or common-law partner in Canada law partner in Canada class, I will not be entitled to a reassessment on humanitarian and compassionate grounds, unless I choose to reapply and pay the associated fees.
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footsy
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Posted - March 17 2009 : 11:06:11
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| Yes I included the daughter. The system is so messed up that the only way for her to visit is to immigrate. |
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Maja
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Canada
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Posted - March 17 2009 : 11:27:02
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quote:
Originally posted by cjane
Hi, sorry if these questions are repeats, I've looked for the info on this site and can't find, so decided to ask.
I live in Canada, will be sponsoring my husband (he is US) after we marry in April and have printed out and begun my stack of paperwork :)
I'm a little confused on when he is supposed to get the medical exam.
One part says he will have to get exam and gives links for finding local doctor and what paperwork/# of photos to take. Somewhere else on website I see that 'you will be told to go get exam after filing application'. So when does he go?
Before we submit or after they tell us?
or get appointment for around the same time as we apply so both arrive at processing centre around the same time?
I don't want to send him too early and have the results expire (although by the looks of processing time - 6-9 months - it won't) but don't want to wait to be told "go get exam" if it can be timed right.
Also, it says to submit recent photos. Can they just be passport photos?
First I suggest you not to sign and date any forms if you are filling them out already, because you are not married. If you do your form before marriage you will be refused. You will make them think you married just to get visa for someone.
You have to decide if you want to do outland or inland application. If you do outland, then do medicals before you send application.
How many photos you need is listed in Appendix A for your region, and they are not same as passport pics. |
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cjane
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Canada
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Posted - March 17 2009 : 17:33:22
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thanks to all.
Not to worry, only doing sketchy info. on forms right now so that we know what bits are needed and what we may have to look up in further detail. WE are waiting until after the chaos of the wedding is done before doing anything in pen. We have to wait for the Marriage Certificate to come from Thunder Bay anyway, so know that we have a month or two (or three) until that arrives. We wanted to use that time (after wedding before Cert. arrives) to do the medical, but weren't sure if that would be too soon (eg. it expires) or if by leaving it will delay everything. I'm going to call the doctors listed for MI to see how long the waiting list for appointments is too. Might need to make appointment now for June, but then again, maybe not. We are trying to time to send the whole package in sometime in July, but didn't want to fall short and be sitting around for the medical when everything else is ready.
Re: pictures, I'll look again for specifics, thank you.
I know that I need to have some pics. to "prove established relationship". Had a friend who did this process a couple years ago warn me of that. We spend EVERY weekend together, so I"m saving all receipts, photos (no matter how silly), wedding organizing etc. to submit. I'll have stuff for proving over a year of dating including 8 months of wedding prep. I use my VISA for everything when shopping so will have my and his statements too. They will be getting quite the thick application, nicely organized, from us. |
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