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SVS
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Canada
3 Posts

Posted - May 16 2009 :  01:25:37  Show Profile
Dear All,
I am new to this forum, as I am preparing to apply for Permanent Resident under the Federal Skilled Worker Class I am coming up with my first question. What different between work visa and work permit? Someone said work visa and work permit are the same, was that true? Thank you so much!
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Immigrant-to-Canada
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441 Posts

Posted - May 16 2009 :  01:38:35  Show Profile
Essentially both serve the same purpose but are different in the sense that a work visa will be a stamped in your passport once your work permit is approved (a permit/piece of paper allowing you to work in Canada).

You can read more about the process here:-

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/apply-how.asp
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SVS
New Member

Canada
3 Posts

Posted - May 16 2009 :  19:34:13  Show Profile
Dear Immigrant-to-Canada,Thank you so much for your help!

I still have some confusing with my visa, my visa is VISITOR RECORD, CASE TYPE: 10 and I got the REMRKS: TEMPORARY STATUS MAINTAINED AS PER R183(6). AUTHORIZED TO PERFORM RELIGIOUS DUTIES FOR.........AS PER R186(l). AZN/G. Someone said this is Work Visa not Visitor visa, is it true? And If I want to apply for the Permanent Resident under the Federal Skilled Worker without a work permit is it possible? Or I have to apply for the work permit before applying for Permanent Resident? Thank you for your kindly help!
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Immigrant-to-Canada
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Posted - May 16 2009 :  21:24:03  Show Profile
Briefly...... if your work is not something that fulfills the labour market requirements or CIC's definition of work, then a temporary foreign worker is provided a visitor's record and is assessed as a visitor BUT is admitted as a worker without a work permit, and for the ones who are going to be admitted for a long period of time and may require a social insurance number, the visitor record must state that "the person is allowed to work in Canada" or a reference to R186 is made.
I read information to this effect by following this link http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/fw/fw01-eng.pdf

So technically you are a temporary foreign worker but were considered as a visitor when the application was assessed/processed hence granted a visitor's record but given the privileges of a worker pursuant to the rules that apply to religious workers.

Also as per information on this site: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/apply-who-nopermit.asp#clergy
Clergy do not require a work permit to work.

Now I am not aware if this work is considered full-time work when the immigration rules are applied. Though I am inclined towards thinking it is, but who knows.

Regardless, what category of the FSW are you planning to apply under?
I am assuming you want to apply as a foreign national who has been living in Canada for more than a year as a temporary foreign worker. FSW/Category 3

I am afraid this is a bit complicated and rather than sending you on a wild goose chase, I think you should await other experienced member's input or talk to an attorney. (Don't retain the attorney, just pay a nominal fee to inquire a few questions which you will write down ahead of your meeting, so that no time is wasted and you utilize the time efficiently eg. 1. Can you apply under the circumstances? 2. Is your work experienced eligible for the class that you want to apply under? etc.)

Edited by - Immigrant-to-Canada on May 16 2009 21:30:17
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SVS
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Canada
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Posted - May 18 2009 :  13:55:06  Show Profile
Thank you so much, Immigrant-to-Canada!

Now I got some light from you. Actually I don't know much about this and I hope I will learn more and more from here before I apply FSW. As in the FSW application Guide I think I can choose FSW/Category 3 only because I don't have work permit to meet requirement in other Categories.

Yes I read your link says Clergy do not require a work permit to work, it's ok, but When I want to apply a Permanent Resident under the Skilled Worker Class I see the Work Permit is much need in order to get success. Is there any way that can apply for FSW without a Work Permit? I saw someone work as a religious worker but they got a work permit, how do they got it?

As don't understand some of your sentences because of my English is not so well, please explain me what do you mean "other experienced member's input or talk to an attorney"? Where should I pay a nominal fee?

I don't know if I can apply under the circumstance or not because I don't know what that case required. Could you tell me please, what is that about? I'm not sure if my work experience eligible for the class or not but I have been working in this field in Canada for more than 3 years. It's considered as full-time work. I think my English makes you confused sometime. However please feel free to let me know if anything you want to correct me. I have more questions. Thank you!
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Immigrant-to-Canada
Senior Member

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Posted - May 18 2009 :  15:02:53  Show Profile
Work permit is not required to apply for FSW.

You will most probably qualify under FSW-3.

I am not familiar with how another religious worker obtained a work permit....may be he/she was offered a job and applied for a work permit.

If a lawyer or any other member in this forum provides information similar to your case OR provides information that states that you can apply for FSW-3 then you should apply immediately to save time. This is what I meant. So if no one else here provides you with more information, then talk to an immigration lawyer or an expert. They will want you to pay them lots of money so that they become your representative but right now you should only talk to them to ask them if you qualify to apply i.e. with your work history. Also pay them only for the consultation visit for now, if you have to.

If you can wait, may be some other people over here might provide better information.


I personally feel that you should read the application process and send in your application, if they don't take your case you lose nothing, if your case is taken and processed then you will be a winner. Please try understanding the process and see if you are able to score enough points to qualify.

Please follow this Evaluation tool:-
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/tool/index.asp
and assess whether any of your past professions in the past 10 years will make you qualify for immigration.

Use the following self assessment tool:- http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/assess/index.asp


How to apply:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/apply-how.asp

Applying as a skilled worker:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/skilled.asp


Instruction guide :
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/EG7TOC.asp OR http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/guides/EG7.pdf




Edited by - Immigrant-to-Canada on May 18 2009 23:31:37
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sharuu
New Member

6 Posts

Posted - June 02 2009 :  17:27:09  Show Profile
VISA is required to enter a country and the status within the country is determined by the type of permit you have. If you have a work permit, and you need to go outside the country you will need a VISITOR visa and that will make you in the work category. Yes, you will have a visitor visa and a work permit but!!
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Immigrant-to-Canada
Senior Member

441 Posts

Posted - June 07 2009 :  23:32:14  Show Profile
What you mentioned is the routine....... SVS's case is different in that his visitor's record is stamped to allow him to work as a religious worker under the regulations/guidelines briefly referred to in the posts above. As a consequence he does not bear a work permit and was hence confused as to what is he supposed to assume about his status and qualification to apply for permanent residence.




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Originally posted by sharuu

VISA is required to enter a country and the status within the country is determined by the type of permit you have. If you have a work permit, and you need to go outside the country you will need a VISITOR visa and that will make you in the work category. Yes, you will have a visitor visa and a work permit but!!

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