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ROTI2
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 Posted - August 09 2009 : 08:38:45
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I am stongly agree with all Janjoun's comments..
He's last comment was: Wait 4 years to get the immigration visa, around 4 years to become eligible for the citizenship, 2 years (Mississauga's CIC office) to become canadian citizen comparing with other CIC office in Canada. Around 10 years all in all.
If they want to know if peoples really stayed 1095 days in Canada, the solution is easy: Stamp the passports on exit.
This is the big question: Why they don't stamp passport on Exit??..
Good luck for all..
Roti2 (Still waiting since the early September 2007) |
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ParadiseCrystals
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Canada
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Posted - August 09 2009 : 08:58:58
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| Roti2: Did you ever enquire about your application through your MP? Wow....thats a pretty long time. I applied once in Sept 2007...then got denied by december 2008. So I reapplied this past February. The process ****. |
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ROTI2
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Posted - August 09 2009 : 09:55:39
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Dear ParadiseCristal,
Please find below my timeline and my story..
http://www.immigration.ca/discussion2/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=48155&whichpage=1
On the other hand, anyone can reply to my question: Why they don't stamp passport on EXIT..
If you need to travel outside the country during the process of your application (for the reason to visit your family), it is need to inform CIC about your trip (if it is over than two weeks).. Do you think, guys, that two weeks trip to visit your family (backhome) is enough.. It is takes 36 hours (from Toronto airport to backhome airport, including transit waiting time in European airport)..
When you comeback to Canada, they ask you (at Toronto Airport) a lot and a lot and a lot and a lot of questions about the reason of your trip.
for those reasons, I hated to travel outside Canada.
I miss a lot my family, my last visit backhome it was in 2006. My family don't know at all my son and my daughter (borm here in Canada).. The pictures via email is not enough.. The visit visa to Canada for my family to Canada it is very very very very very difficult plus my mother and father are oldage and their health situation are bad and not support them for longtime travel..
I feel really like a prisoner who don't know what is his guilt!!
Good luck to all
Regards,
Roti2
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rscship
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Posted - August 09 2009 : 10:59:04
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Since Canada is an immigrant based country, they have a strict policy on people entering country and for the same,they stamp the passport, though not necessarily all the times, and the Entry records are maintained by CBSA. When people leave the Canada, CBSA, has a silent mouth policy, which means, they need not ask you questions or reasons for you leaving the country, thats the reason they do not stamp the passport or keep any track of your Exit travels in their database.
As a matter of fact, Even the USA does not stamp passport when people exit the country, however USCBP does enter the information in their database when a person leaves USA.
I traveled a bit in Europe ( France, Belgium, Swiss)its the same thing, they stamp when you enter the country,but when you leave the country, you will not see any stamps on your passport (atleast in my case).. |
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sja2010
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Posted - August 09 2009 : 11:07:34
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Roti2,
I'd suggest you should stop complaining and whining about Canadian policies. Canada never forced you to come here. You chose to come here. I personally don't see anything wrong with there entry/exit policies. Mind you I am an immigrant my self and have you go through the same process.
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ParadiseCrystals
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Canada
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Posted - August 09 2009 : 11:30:00
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Roti2:
I understand your situation. I just gave birth to my son on July 2nd, and his father still hasn't seen him. His PR application has been processing in Kenya for 17 months now. Now I have to meet up with my husband and travel with a baby which is not easy to Lebanon and meet him there next month. What is the reason we have to tell CIC that we left for more than 2 weeks? Is it because they might send us something in the mail? Because I am afraid to tell them because they might delay the citizenship application even more? What do you think? |
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ROTI2
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Posted - August 09 2009 : 12:18:08
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Dear rscship,
Thank you very much for the reply.. I wish you the best on your case..
Dear ParadiseCrystals,
It is very clear that you should contact CIC if you plan on leaving Canada for more than two weeks in a row,
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/canada/cit-info.asp
Be sure that the CIC at the arrival point in Canada will ask you about the date left Canada plus you should declare that in the Declaration Card..
I understand that inform the CIC about your plan of leaving Canada for more than two weeks might delay the citizenship application even more..
For me, if I need to leave the country for for more than two weeks, I will inform CIC about that before my departure..
Regards,
Roti2 |
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janjoun
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Posted - August 09 2009 : 12:30:28
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ParadiseCrystals, it depends on your local office actually and their policies. But for example many CIC local offices only gives around 2 weeks of notice before test or before oath, and I was really surprised, that in the recent oath invitation of my friend, it says that if you miss the oath, you will have to appear before the judge later with strong evidence of why you missed the oath, or you will have to reapply all over again. So not being in Canada at the time of your test or oath, might add up one year to your application processing to see the judge.
So it might be better to contact CIC to make sure that they do not schedule your test and/or oath while you're away.
and in reply to Salman, there is nothing wrong with the entry-exit policy per se. It is only wrong with regards to treatment of citizenship applications, where many ppl are gettting citizenship when they do not stay for 1095 days in Canada while others get delayed for too long because CIC suspects them not have stayed 1095 days.
And yes we chose Canada, based upon the ease of integrating and getting citizenship compared to other countries. (It used to take less than 5 years when I chose Canada as my destination). After I graduated, I had job offers in both France and the US but I chose to move to Canada. This turned out a big mistake, as It took me 4 years to get immigration (while ppl who applied around 4 months before me got it in less than a year), I arrived to Canada with an experience deemed worthless by Canadian enterprises as it is not north american, experience which I was forced to acquire in my home country because i was waiting for an immigration that was supposed to take less than a year, but ended up taking 4 years because of change in procedure.
So as an end result, when any of the ppl I know asks me if I advise them to immigrate to Canada, I tell them that if they have good professional credentials to chose another country because of better monetary incentives (US) or easier citizenship process (France) But if they don't have what it takes to make it professionally, then Canada is good enough.
So all in all, I consider that everything that is happenning with CIC these days is only attracting lower skills immigrants and driving away higher skills applicants, which in my opinion in not very good for the future of Canada because an equilibrium is needed and I think we're getting more and more away from it. |
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janjoun
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Posted - August 09 2009 : 12:47:43
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of course, there are lots of good things in Canada as well. But, let's face it, CIC is not one of them as it is an archaic and decaying organization.
And the purpose of all my posts are just to pinpoint that fact.
A good society is a society that changes constantly to meet its new needs. And change gotta start somewhere. I'm just using the forum to express my thoughts and worries. Nothing here is meant to offend anyone. |
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ROTI2
New Member
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Posted - August 09 2009 : 12:59:10
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Dear Janjoun,
Once again, and again and again, thank you very much for your post..
Janjoun, bc2on, mississauga2 are the best in this forum for understand the situation of everybody..
Thank a lot, guys, for your times, advices and for your great effort of help the applicants without hurting their feelings (as it is happened to me today in this forum)..
You guys, gives us a lot of advices.. You are really a perfect citizen (bc2on) and residents (Janjoun & mississauga2)..
I hope that one day, you (all of you) will establish a website, provide the advices and the consultations of all the immigrant people..
There is a lot of applicants spent a lot of money for the reason of having some advices and consultations from lawyers and immigration experts..
Good bless you guys, and good luck for everyone and specially for the guy who hurt my feeling today in this forum..
Regards,
Roti2 |
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ParadiseCrystals
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Canada
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Posted - August 09 2009 : 13:14:28
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| I still think I shouldnt inform them because Windsor, ON gives a 2 week notice of test. In regards to this forum, people who have applications in Windsor get test date 10 months after they apply. So since I applied in Feb 2009. I expect my test to be in December 2009. And since I am living with my parents at the moment, the mail will come here, and I will know from them just in case. But for a fact I know I expext test date to be in December. |
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canvis2006
Top Member
Canada
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Posted - August 09 2009 : 22:51:31
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I believe most countries in the world have Immigration on both ENTRY and EXIT, at airports at least.
I have been to europe(until last month), and as I was always traveling with schengen visa (visa is mandatory for my nationality) in passport, so always on entry and exit my passport is stamped by Immigration of that country (switzerland,hungary, portugal, etc).
It makes things so much smoother for them as well as for me. Canada should introduce immigration/passport control @ exit.....even if it is just for stamps and/or scanning PR cards..
At the moment they leave it for airline to check passport/visas....
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